174 thoughts on “Lanai, Hawaii Cat sanctuary

  1. I read a couple of pages but still not quite sure how this works, love the idea of a cat sanctuary though. I guess you have a mini one already πŸ™‚

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    1. I gather the sanctuary people rescue feral/stray cats from city shelters and then release them on the island, which I gather is pretty small. The cats are neutered/spayed before being released. I see the shelters they have built, but hey, it’s Hawaii! There is a clean up crew. ALSO I was impressed that there is also a bird sanctuary. They do solicit donations for food. (I am curious about cat “litter” issues.)

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      1. I gather, upon cursory research, that there is a specific clean-up crew that tidies up after the cats. Are there public restrooms for the cats? Restricted areas? Where does the poop go? Sand-pits?

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      2. Well the remains DO tend to dry up and become dust fairly quickly. I’m not an expert on the subject…in spite of the fact that it does seem to be a matter of interest to me. LOL

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      3. wet sand? I am going to have to contact the web site of these sanctuary people and ask them questions. It reminds me a bit of the questions kid ask astronauts about how they go to the bathroom….hmmm, I always wonder about stuff like that myself, I guess we never outgrow some fears.

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      4. I always wonder about that. I suppose a contraption could be (or has been) invented that allows leaning (extending?) body parts over the side of the boat….without falling in.

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      5. We were on an ocean beach in Puerto Rico once, and everybody got out of the water fast when a cruise ship discharged its waste out a mile or so from shore. Orange peels and much much worse things floating in. Yuk!

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      6. Out in open waters they can apparently. I was aghast! when I saw it, but there was a man there with his kid and he said it happens all the time. I hate cruise ships…nasty. My only cruise was on a navy ship back in 1955 on my way to Germany as an army dependent. I LOVED it…spent every possible minute on deck.

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      7. My family background had a lot of sailors, and I love the sea, and the oceans…any body of water, really. But I am deathly afraid of the water, so that kind of cancels out my sailor dreams.

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      8. This afternoon we went to Best Buy and I got a new phone. They have a nice cheap flip-top at a decent price, so we switched to that. This new one has a bigger screen and a top that covers the keyboard. Also larger keys, so I like that too.

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      9. I miss my old flip top. My fingers feel fat and useless with the Samsung, and I don’t have big hands! I’m glad the demise of your old one has turned into a positive. πŸ™‚

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      10. my girls are all neatnicks…well, two of them are at least…they didn’t get it from me. Being a book dealer/collector and an ex-flea market seller, “stuff” is my business.

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      11. I’m not a neatnik either but after a certain level of disorganisation, I start to get twitchy and have to tidy up. Housework however….I can live with a mess for quite a while.

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      12. My son’s little Nikon Coolpix is too complicated for him by far. I always suspect that camera makers are laughing at us … whatever happened to point-and-shoot? The ID on the dials always seem so cryptic…

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      13. I like to experiment with my Sony, which I am still learning the settings and capabilities. My spider web photos, for instance, were — to me— some special work. Also some of my flower photography. I still suck at portraits of humans.

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      14. Yes, we went to my GGD’s show last night, which was a relatively big photography show. Beatrice’s friend Lydia had more examples of her work on the wall….small instant camera shots… each for sale at $20. That’s pretty steep price, but I bought one of L’s and two of B’s. The young photogs were carrying stacks of their entries around with them and although I told each one up front that I couldn’t buy any, I would like to see them. Then I did comment here and there, I always find something constructive to say in cases like that… nice shadows, interesting subject, good composition. Something. Several of the kids sincerely thanked me for my comments.

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      15. Actually I am a terrible teacher. As a History TA I directed many “World Civ” discussions. The students were required to take two World courses…Japan, Latin America…etc…and many of them absolutely hated it. My teaching skills are extremely lacking. On the other hand after my first class my feedback included “Best TA I ever had.” and “Worst TA I ever had.” Part of it is that my speaking/lecturing skills are practically none. lol

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      16. I do ok when talking about my field, Latin America, because I usually know what I’m talking about. I chose the lecture materials, so was surely well versed in my topics. But writing is my forte, and I always express myself better in writing.

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      17. I think a part of me was always a ‘ham’ as I’ve always enjoyed standing in front of people and ‘lecturing’, but for serious stuff I prefer writing as well.

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      18. My two cents worth on laundering cell phones… Once is a mistake, Two extenuating circumstances, Three stupidity. A bonus is that the camera in the phone is much more serviceable, the one in my old phone was useless. I use one of my cameras for photography work normally, but I do like the convenience of a phone AND a camera that both work well, especially when I am out on the place by myself and often carry both a camera AND a phone. I have fallen and barely escaped serious injury enough times, and it is isolated here so I need to be in touch.

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      19. My phone is a very old Galaxy SII but I’ve found its camera far more useful than the Coolpix I used to have [and never used]. As for the phone being a security aid, it’s a good thing you always have it with it. And maybe that’s also why you sometimes leave it in a pocket. When you think about how many times you take it with you, putting it through the wash 3 times isn’t such a big number.

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      20. Have you noticed our congress people and business folks falling like flies with sexual harassment charges? Good god…as my daughter says pretty soon there won’t be any men in the “good” queues at all. HaHa…

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      21. well, I must say that women better start covering up a bit more…I am no prude, but it is embarrassing how some women dress. When my girls were teens they weren’t allowed to wear bare midriffs…they still make fun of me “cover up that belly button!” It’s like offering a dog a nice morsel of steak then grabbing it back and saying “no” at the last second before he gulps it down. bad!
        Having said that, I am fully aware that all women at all times have been subject to some degree of harassment….

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      22. I tend to agree re the clothing, but when I worked at a temp secretary I had more than one boss come on to me so I know some men don’t need any ‘encouragement’ to be -cough- a&&holes -cough-

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      23. Yes…this is true. And I realize that all women…nuns, women in burkas, women in comas in hospitals, hugely obese women, skin-and-bones types…90+ year-old women, on and on (see Patricia Williams in The Nation article “Will we believe her now?”) are all affected.

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      24. It’s the constant double standard that annoys the heck out of me. Some Aussie guys think it’s funny to run around naked or to moon the world, yet if a woman did the same thing she’d be ‘asking for it’. -grump-

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      25. Yep. That’s my point, most guys tend to act like kids in a candy store when among the “starlets etc” with their boobs hanging out. Having said that, I admit I’m an old gal with just one of the aforesaid body parts. LOL

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      26. lol – ‘kids in a candy store’ that’s a scream. And yes, that’s exactly what they’re like. Oddly enough they rarely seem to wonder whether their own physique is at all attractive. That Weinstein guy is positively hideous. 😦

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      27. Once when my granddaughter was feeding her baby we were in a restaurant, and although she was always very discreet and covered up with a blanket…I thought the waiter was going to just curl up and die! Apparently even the thought of a bare breast somewhere was more than he could stand. LOL

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      28. 45 once said an attorney who was taking a deposition, and excused herself, stating that she had to take a break to feed her baby…45 said she was disgusting! He is a Creep. ALSO, during the presidential debates last year 45 was “disgusted” by Hillary Clinton’s “bathroom break.” Really… he actually makes a public spectacle of these weird things. When one of his accusers came out about his abuse…he said in effect “look at her! You tell me… no way!” These women were/are too unattractive for him to even think of abusing.

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      29. at least Weinstein apologized and owned up to his abuses…. of course he is “sorry for getting caught” but at least he didn’t call them liars and sluts; probably thought they were really honored by his attentions.

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      30. I have a sci-fi story I wrote an outline for…the women run the world and send the men out into space to work on distant planets until a certain retirement age then they return (.IF their wives want them.) The main character is a young girl who resents being separated from her dear brother at 9 or 10, and sets out to change the system.

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      31. that would-be novel is wayyyy down on my list. It might make a short story though, come to think about it. Before the possibility of Indie publishing I never wanted to take the time and anguish required to make it through a big pub like Harcourt or whatever.

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      32. actually, our conversation there is probably more generally important than if we chatted about our 45… who is trying his best to blow up the world. The Brits are ready to swear out a warrant because of 45’s tweeting of some right-wing-whacko videos in the UK.

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      33. 45 is in hot water now, big stuff going down about 45s transition team playing games with the Russians… hopefully it will bring the cards down on 45 personally, already some vital indictments. This is why 45 tries to keep the stuff stirred up against his predecessor, Obama (and Hillary Clinton…who won the popular vote by three million, but lost anyway.)

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      34. Yep, it was 45’s son-in-law that apparently directed Flynn to do what he did. A biggie may turn out to be that the illegal collusion was before 45 took office…when Obama was still president. That’s a no-no, and punishable through some long existing law passed (apparently on future need for it) to deal with traitors. Flynn could actually go to prison, but he took a plea…in my opinion to save his son, who could be charged but may escape any culpability.

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      35. I wonder that too. I think Flynn was known or suspected of assorted high crimes, dealing with “enemy” nations. The Obama admin (#44 himself) tried to warn them. The family (sons, soninlaw) were in a sort of “gee whiz” state. There is some issues with Israel…just coming to light; and assorted hankypank in Turkey. Sigh.

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      36. well, that is the question! How much of it is just being whacko…how much more dedicated to chaos. How can this man POTUS or not, be so bent on destroying the US way of life and culture. Not that I approve of everything, but we do actually have at least lip service to the “liberty and justice for all.” Yep. That said, I am more liberal and leftist than most, so I’m big on those altruistic concepts.

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      37. Madness is the only … ahem, acceptable … excuse. The alternate…pure unadulterated evil sabotage…is foo much for even me to get my head around. This man 45 is systematically destroying our (admittedly imperfect) system and everything we stand for, at least theoretically.

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      38. …or haul it off on huge floating barges??? I’m sorry, but I am absolutely fascinated by this whole Cat Sanctuary thing. (It doesn’t take much to entertain me. My journalist background, I guess. πŸ™‚

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      39. I was kidding about the floating barges… I do wonder about the sanctuary’s waste removal system. Our outside cats (all cats I assume) do bury their waste., at least it doesn’t seem to lay around in piles like dog’s waste does.

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      40. Right. From a practical standpoint, I can imagine gigantic litter-areas, which could be cleaned daily by scooping out the stuff….um, what do they do with it then? I am going to HAVE to ask them…

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    2. There is an active effort around here to “neuter and release” feral cats. Kittens are usually adopted, as the program is very popular. They to areas frequented by cats, trap them in cool cages, take them to their “pound” and neuter/spay them; and give them basic required shots; the program is maintained by volunteer veterinarians. Then they clip one ear to indicate that the cat has been “fixed”.

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      1. A couple of years ago there was an incident where a woman complained to the police that a litter of feral kittens was bothering the neighborhood because the kids liked the kittens and the kittens scratched the kids…etc. The police officer, our local acting humane officer, responded to the woman complainers frantic calls to “DO something” about the kittens. SO, he shot them…all of them…dead.

        You know what happened then…all hell broke loose! The cop was reassigned…but not before he became infamous wide and away! Now, I happen to know that this cop was always known among his peers as an ass… but killing kittens???? In full view of the neighborhood children who had gathered around!

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      2. 😦 You know what’s been going through my mind all day? How those kids relate to their mother now. I’m sure she was just a stupid, hysterical twit, but if she’d been my mother….:(

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      3. I suspect the mother was a neighborhood busybody — but the cop apparently was just mean or stupid, my husband once referred to him as a prick. To me that describes the cop…probably has some other kinds of brutality on his record.

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      4. the mother didn’t want or ask for the cop to shoot the kittens…she evidently wanted him to respond to her demand that he “do something.”

        I dislike guns and shooting animals in general. Once while walking back in my big pasture I saw a deer that had tried to jump over the highway fence, and had caught his front hoof in the wire fencing. I called the police, and we (the cop and I) walked back there. The deer had destroyed its leg attempting to struggle free, and the cop asked me what I wanted him to do. The answer was obvious, the deer had to be put down. Sad, but there was no way that animal could have survived.

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      5. Yeah, I guessed the cop took the mother by surprise too, but what exactly did she expect him to do? And why couldn’t she keep her kids away herself? -sigh- Sorry, I blame her for those dead kittens as much as that crazy cop. 😦
        I hate having to put animals down too but sometimes there’s just no other choice.

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      6. well what the idiots should have done was have the APL come and trap the kittens humanely then deal with them accordingly. In addition to the deer I mentioned in another post, I also had to enlist the humane officer to assist in dealing with an almost-dead (sick or hit by car) opossum that was on my deck. I think it died before the cop had to shoot it, but he did help me immensely in disposing of the carcass by carrying it on a shovel to the back-40 near the highway.

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      7. Absolutely. I had an injured kangaroo in the back of my place [1.6 acres on the city fringe]. I called the local wild life person who said it looked as if it had broken its leg or hip jumping over the fence. Big roo it was. No way anyone could get near it so she said to call the police out. They were wonderful. Shot the poor kangaroo and then dragged it all the way to the street so it could be picked up. Hated the sound of the single shot though. 😦

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      1. Moving along here in the land of the insane… over the weekend, as I was unloading the washer into the dryer, there on the very bottom was my cell phone. (yep, dead as a doornail.) Maybe it’s god’s way of saying I can’t be trusted with a phone of my own? (This is the third cell phone I have killed in this way…)

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      2. lmao – you don’t check your pockets do you? tsk tsk. Sorry, had to have a little giggle. I sometimes find money in the wash. Luckily our notes are plastic so they wash up just fine.

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      3. I did! Really! I stood there and checked EACH garment before loading them into the washer, thinking all the time about my phone….obviously excepting the one with the phone in the pocket.

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      4. ok…. after thinking deeply about the phone, I dimly recall adding a dress and a couple of other items to the wash AFTER I loaded the washer. Probably where it was lurking.

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      5. yes. My pal Dorothy crocheted a selection of cell-phone holder things on straps. Very effective, but they needed some work. I didn’t like the weight of it around my neck. I’ve been thinking about making a sort of macramΓ© harness thing.

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      6. Those new lanyard or necklace strands used in beading and crafts could also work well, now that you mention it. I have some, I’ll see what I can do. I’ll see if I can make my phone a harness. πŸ™‚

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      7. On a brighter note… my package from Amazon arrived yesterday containing your three novels! Yay! I’m thrilled to pieces. Getting a new book is a sensory event for me…feel the smooth wraps; smell the ink and paper; see the sights of the books—the cover art, type on the pages, the way the stack lines up; and hear the ruffling pages. UM… and bragging rights that the author is a personal friend! [[[ I really need to get a job! :-0 ]]] I always treat any new book thus. πŸ˜‰

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      8. I read the kindle version of the books, and I did enjoy them…I admit I prefer a “real” book, but reading on the kindle was ok. I’m going to lend them to my daughter to read, but I am keeping them for myself. πŸ™‚

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      9. the Kindle units I read were fine. I would have noticed, as I am very sensitive to wanton grammatical issues… my dear husband used to circle errors in the newspaper. (As did our managing editor when I worked for the newspaper, he marked typos etc. with red pen and pinned them up on his bulletin board. Fortunately I rarely made the board. )

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      10. Either we learn to spell and understand grammar rules…or we don’t. When I was a history teaching assistant a few years ago one of my peers remarked that he didn’t indicate or subtract those errors on his university-entry-level – students’ papers because he did not do well in that area himself.

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      11. Back in the 1940s, when I was learning to read, I think the system was different…also my mother and dad and aunts etc. were all highly literate, book lovers, and writers to boot. I believe a lot of reading facility is learned by example, too.

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      12. I agree about the support network, but I’m also a strong believer in teaching kids via a kind of phonetics – using syllables such as cat, mat, rat,hat,bat, fat etc. English is about 85% regular and the bits that aren’t can be learned fairly easily.

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      13. three of my kids learned by the ITA, Initial Teaching Alphabet, system. Very effective, the idea was that they could write anything they could say because phonetic spelling characters provided amazing fluency for even first graders (about 6.) They made a transition to regular alphabet by second grade. Teachers loved the system…parents hated it…I personally swear by it.

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      14. lol – I had to look that up. Not sure how my offspring would have gone with that, especially having to then re-learn a second alphabet. But I guess it all boils down to what works and that can often vary greatly from child to child.

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      15. It was mandatory in our town back in the day, for about ten years in fact. ITA was supposedly the reading technique by which Queen Elizabeth’s kids learned to read… I wrote a newspaper story about ITA, I still have my oldest son’s lovely “production” called Pleeseman Joe… in theory anything a child could say they could spell…by second grade. Our school district now denies the system ever was used…and have NO files on it. I was going to do a much later follow-up, but there was NO background info for me to use….

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      16. I didn’t see any typos or errors while reading the kindle versions. I plan to read the paperbacks again from the beginning, and I think I will get even more out of it upon rereading.

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      17. Oh, I know! Sometimes I read an old post of mine and cringe at a really terrible error. πŸ™‚ I have read old university papers and news articles I wrote that make me say out loud “I could NOT have written this garbage.” haha You are right that corrections are inherently error-prone.

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      18. I have a novel in the works based on a NaNoWriMo challenge once. I followed their strict directions and just free-formed without stopping to re-read as I went along. I was following loosely part of my doctoral dissertation…fictionalized of course…and when I came to a place I just did a <> note to myself.

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      19. You should get back to it! I’ve done 2 nanos and I think they’re great for focusing the sub-conscious on just being creative. Then afterwards I get horribly anal and edit most of it away. πŸ˜€

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      20. I loved working on that nano…I liked being free from the screeching halt I do when making a typo or whatever… the characters just developed and walked right off the pages, and when it came to a situation or some kind of “fact” I just did a fjjlksllkl type of thing and skipped over it instead of stopping my train of thought to go off searching for some obscure scrap of information.

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      21. Today is my great-granddaughter’s photography show. How thrilling. I’ve been to her various plays and etc., but this is a different kind of event. She is 12, so more grown up in her activities and interests. My other girl…granddaughter…is in Thailand now! I am so jealous I can hardly stand it. I hate being old! yes, I am, 83 is old.

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      22. Thanks. When I say I’m too-old to do something it means my buckling knee and potential bad back etc physically prevent me from doing certain things….like climbing trees, one of my former favorite pastimes.

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      23. As a girl I spent as much time as I could up in a cherry tree at the back of our property (half acre) after my Mom’s vegetable garden. I always had a book or a comic book, or as a young teen, a romance magazine. No one knew I was there, which made it all the more lovely. I too am scared of heights, but didn’t become so until later when I was a young mother. We were on a balcony watching a parade when it hit…my knees buckled and panic set in.

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      24. I could climb /up/ trees. I simply couldn’t climb down. My Dad had to help me down coz as soon as I looked down I’d freeze. It’s a horrible feeling.

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      25. Thank you! You’ve made my day. I tend to go on gut feelings a lot but with the three of them, I had to find some kind of unifying theme and it was so much harder than I thought it would be! So glad it works.

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      26. When I was at Best Buy waiting for them to do my new phone (transfer numbers etc.) I looked around the store, and there was a huge back lit sign for a cellphone provider… maybe TMobile or what ever. What caught my eye is that the background art of the sign reminded me of your “network” of connectors to your “storage units”… words are escaping me here … AH HA…”circuit board” is what I’m grasping for.

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      27. Ah so that’s who started it all. I suppose it’s possible, in theory, but there’s no guarantee that liquid nitrogen is the answer. For all we know, some other process is required to re-animate people. I guess I’m just a cynic. πŸ™‚

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